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W-9 - Judy Nisonger/CA
12/15/2004 2:55:47 AM (2292 views)
Re: W-9 - Shannon Blatt/VA
12/15/2004 9:54:18 AM (3308 views)
Re: W-9 - Judy Nisonger/CA
12/15/2004 6:38:33 PM (3174 views)

One Big Mess! - Judy Nisonger/CA
12/15/2004 2:43:07 AM (2476 views)
Re: One Big Mess! - Loretta Reed/MD
12/15/2004 9:00:28 AM (3304 views)
Re: One Big Mess! - Shannon Blatt/VA
12/15/2004 9:51:51 AM (3440 views)
Re: One Big Mess! - Robert Franco/OH
12/15/2004 10:46:02 AM (3398 views)
Re: One Big Mess! - David Bloys/TX
12/15/2004 11:20:43 AM (3439 views)
Re: One Big Mess! - Judy Nisonger/CA
12/15/2004 6:37:48 PM (3378 views)

Good tips! - Jay Duncan/MO
12/14/2004 9:08:36 AM (1835 views)

REMINDER! - Robert Franco/OH
12/13/2004 12:40:10 PM (2972 views)

Glad I found this message board - Gregory Butzek/WI
12/13/2004 11:50:46 AM (1820 views)




Witness Only Closings - Danielle Nelson/WI
12/13/2004 11:48:27 AM (2632 views)
Re: Witness Only Closings - kevin ahern/CT
12/13/2004 1:26:46 PM (3381 views)
Re: Witness Only Closings - Susan Pullins/OH
12/13/2004 6:14:39 PM (4774 views)

211m U.S. residents' records for sale - David Bloys/TX
12/12/2004 10:28:35 PM (3381 views)
Re: 211m U.S. residents' records for sale - Garland Burnett/NM
12/13/2004 4:12:02 AM (3389 views)
Re: 211m U.S. residents' records for sale - David Bloys/TX
12/13/2004 8:34:14 AM (3335 views)
Re: 211m U.S. residents' records for sale - kevin ahern/CT
12/13/2004 11:04:25 AM (3451 views)
Re: 211m U.S. residents' records for sale - David Bloys/TX
12/13/2004 11:26:21 AM (3382 views)
Found the article - David Bloys/TX
12/13/2004 12:19:14 PM (3457 views)
Found her - David Bloys/TX
12/13/2004 3:50:01 PM (4827 views)

Bulk Release of public records - David Bloys/TX
12/12/2004 11:23:03 AM (2942 views)

Education - Shannon Blatt/VA
12/12/2004 1:28:00 AM (2279 views)
Survey Says - Shannon Blatt/VA
12/13/2004 9:50:01 PM (3365 views)

ALTA, Hello??? Anyone there??? - Jay Duncan/MO
12/11/2004 12:27:52 PM (3476 views)

Self Serve title searches - Shannon Blatt/VA
12/10/2004 6:55:00 PM (3360 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/10/2004 7:24:48 PM (3533 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Judy Nisonger/CA
12/11/2004 12:49:33 AM (3546 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - kevin ahern/CT
12/11/2004 6:50:05 AM (3614 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Kurt deVries/FL
12/13/2004 9:30:48 AM (3414 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Charles Skinner/NY
12/14/2004 10:07:42 AM (3470 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - David Bloys/TX
12/14/2004 1:14:00 PM (4871 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Charles Skinner/NY
12/14/2004 2:16:01 PM (3475 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Robert Franco/OH
12/14/2004 2:58:15 PM (3429 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - David Bloys/TX
12/14/2004 3:45:08 PM (3453 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Charles Skinner/NY
12/14/2004 4:41:42 PM (3427 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - David Bloys/TX
12/14/2004 6:15:06 PM (3428 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Charles Skinner/NY
12/15/2004 10:13:20 AM (3460 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - David Bloys/TX
12/15/2004 11:11:56 AM (5041 views)

Good arguments Robert but it brings up another point.

PUBLIC - By the term the public, is meant the whole body politic, or all the citizens of the state; sometimes it signifies the inhabitants of a particular place; as, the New York public. From the Lectric Law Library http://www.lectlaw.com/def2/p199.htm
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Making the American Public Records available over the internet makes those records available to anyone, anwhere, for any purpose. From the real property records terrorists are able to easily locate high pressure gas lines, electrical substations, chemical plants and many other known targets of convenience including the personal information of our leaders and their families.

The nineteen 911 terrorists were found to have over 50 drivers licenses from several states taken from stolen identities.

Your scenario of giving every Citizen of Texas a complete copy of the public record makes my point. First they would be the citizens of Texas and not the citizens the world. Second the fact they would have to flip through all the records is insures the practical obscurity that has protected American Citizens from unwarranted and casual examination of their records until the digital record was released worldwide through the internet.

Can you show me anywhere USA today has ever published the social security numbers, dates of birth, or home addresses of anyone? Yes they could under the laws but as a responsible news agency they don't.

Acces over the internet is only made possible by the digitization and mass transfer of the digitized public records from the public trust to private companies with their own purposes. Aggredization of the private records of American citizens is only made efficient when the records are digitized. Can you show me any instance where any company anywhere ever demanded all the paper public records contained in the real property records of a county. It just wasn't practical with paper records. But you will find these bulk requests for the bulk digital public record almost anywhere the county has digitized those records.

All over the country legislators are trying to deal with this problem. Most often they put bandaids on the hemorrhaging of the public record by pulling back affected records of certain groups such as police offiicers, elected and appointed officials, leaving the rest of us exposed. Or they make confidential entire subsections of previously open records such as the DMV records in California after Rebecca Shaefer was killed.

The digitization and bulk release of the public record and easy access worldwide threatens not only the individuals whose private information is contained in the records. It threatens the accuracy of the public records themselves as legislators try to deal with the problem by creating more and more exclusions. 

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Re: Self Serve title searches - Charles Skinner/NY
12/15/2004 2:09:18 PM (3456 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - David Bloys/TX
12/15/2004 3:15:08 PM (3521 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/15/2004 4:22:32 PM (3468 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - David Bloys/TX
12/15/2004 5:16:14 PM (3495 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/15/2004 6:29:10 PM (3444 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - David Bloys/TX
12/15/2004 8:15:17 PM (3424 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Robert Franco/OH
12/14/2004 2:05:32 PM (3403 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/15/2004 11:38:13 AM (3314 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - kevin ahern/CT
12/15/2004 7:24:57 AM (3452 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/15/2004 3:58:18 PM (3363 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Michelle Bernard/LA
12/13/2004 6:31:11 PM (3420 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/11/2004 12:14:16 PM (3524 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - John Redhead/NY
12/14/2004 12:13:49 PM (3458 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/14/2004 6:29:35 PM (3461 views)

Is Your Business Worth It??? - Jay Duncan/MO
12/10/2004 6:02:18 PM (2725 views)

infinity data - Robert Breakell/CT
12/10/2004 8:53:35 AM (2456 views)
Re: infinity data - David Bloys/TX
12/10/2004 9:47:46 AM (3493 views)
Re: infinity data - Robert Breakell/CT
12/10/2004 3:58:48 PM (3385 views)
Re: infinity data - Robert Franco/OH
12/10/2004 1:02:43 PM (3395 views)
Re: infinity data - Robert Breakell/CT
12/10/2004 3:49:12 PM (3397 views)
Re: infinity data - Robert Franco/OH
12/10/2004 4:19:45 PM (3406 views)
Re: infinity data - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/10/2004 5:05:05 PM (3385 views)
Re: infinity data - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/10/2004 6:34:52 PM (3184 views)
Re: infinity data - Robert Franco/OH
12/10/2004 6:54:49 PM (3269 views)
Re: infinity data - Robert Franco/OH
12/10/2004 6:51:46 PM (3347 views)
Re: infinity data - David Bloys/TX
12/10/2004 8:06:25 PM (3254 views)
Re: infinity data - David Bloys/TX
12/10/2004 7:24:35 PM (3222 views)
Re: infinity data - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/11/2004 11:58:01 AM (3264 views)
Re: infinity data - David Bloys/TX
12/11/2004 1:04:18 PM (3287 views)
Re: infinity data - Jay Duncan/MO
12/11/2004 4:15:11 PM (3302 views)
Re: infinity data - David Bloys/TX
12/10/2004 6:55:13 PM (3231 views)
Re: infinity data - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/10/2004 7:18:23 PM (3070 views)
Re: infinity data - David Bloys/TX
12/10/2004 7:35:47 PM (3130 views)
Re: infinity data - Judy Nisonger/CA
12/11/2004 12:35:05 AM (3052 views)
Re: infinity data - kevin ahern/CT
12/11/2004 6:26:32 AM (3255 views)
Re: infinity data - David Bloys/TX
12/11/2004 10:25:01 AM (3102 views)
Re: infinity data - Jay Duncan/MO
12/11/2004 11:55:46 AM (3130 views)
Re: infinity data - kevin ahern/CT
12/11/2004 1:11:30 PM (3174 views)
Re: infinity data - Robert Franco/OH
12/12/2004 12:46:21 AM (3124 views)
Re: infinity data - David Bloys/TX
12/11/2004 1:17:36 PM (2978 views)
Re: infinity data - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/11/2004 3:21:11 PM (3067 views)
Re: infinity data - Judy Nisonger/CA
12/12/2004 1:32:47 PM (3070 views)
Re: infinity data - David Bloys/TX
12/12/2004 2:14:26 PM (3009 views)

Baby - Shannon Blatt/VA
12/9/2004 6:37:29 PM (2276 views)
Re: Baby - Robert Franco/OH
12/9/2004 6:43:12 PM (3199 views)
Re: Baby - Judy Nisonger/CA
12/10/2004 1:00:54 AM (3029 views)
Re: Baby - Judy Nisonger/CA
12/10/2004 1:01:10 AM (3083 views)
Re: Baby - Jay Duncan
12/10/2004 7:54:50 AM (3058 views)
Re: Baby - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/10/2004 10:25:55 AM (3181 views)

Maryland Dailup system - anonymous/MD
12/9/2004 8:45:59 AM (2341 views)
Re: Maryland Dailup system - Loretta Reed/MD
12/9/2004 11:39:17 PM (3042 views)


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