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I am a Veteran - Jay Duncan/MO
11/10/2004 11:09:37 PM (2533 views)
Re: I am a Veteran - Michelle Bernard/LA
11/11/2004 6:16:33 PM (4029 views)
Re: I am a Veteran - Kurt deVries/FL
11/17/2004 10:51:42 AM (4142 views)
Re: I am a Veteran - Jay Duncan
11/17/2004 12:13:47 PM (4122 views)
Re: I am a Veteran - Lisa Ramsey/TX
11/17/2004 12:54:55 PM (4137 views)

It is the soldier - Jay Duncan/MO
11/10/2004 10:40:58 PM (2444 views)
Re: It is the soldier - Judy Nisonger/CA
11/11/2004 3:01:31 AM (4062 views)
Re: It is the soldier - Jay Duncan
11/11/2004 8:40:24 AM (3923 views)
Re: It is the soldier - Judy Nisonger/CA
11/11/2004 10:39:56 AM (3983 views)

Skipjack - kevin ahern/CT
11/10/2004 5:00:03 PM (2679 views)
Re: Skipjack - Judy Nisonger/CA
11/10/2004 5:35:03 PM (4109 views)
Re: Skipjack - Jay Duncan/MO
11/10/2004 11:12:43 PM (4053 views)
Re: Skipjack - Judy Nisonger/CA
11/11/2004 3:09:58 AM (4004 views)
Re: Skipjack - Ellen Malloy/MO
11/11/2004 2:47:08 PM (4340 views)
Re: Skipjack - Jay Duncan
11/11/2004 2:57:11 PM (3964 views)
Re: Skipjack - Shannon Blatt/VA
11/11/2004 7:58:37 PM (3949 views)
Re: Skipjack - Jay Duncan
11/11/2004 9:02:34 PM (3920 views)
Re: Skipjack - Judy Nisonger/CA
11/12/2004 4:42:02 AM (3950 views)
Re: Skipjack - kevin ahern/CT
11/11/2004 6:15:54 AM (3997 views)
Re: Skipjack - Jay Duncan
11/11/2004 8:43:44 AM (3899 views)
Re: Skipjack - kevin ahern/CT
11/11/2004 9:12:46 AM (3984 views)
Re: Skipjack - Jay Duncan
11/11/2004 9:22:19 AM (4002 views)
Re: Skipjack - Lisa Ramsey/TX
11/11/2004 11:09:53 AM (3963 views)
Re: Skipjack - kevin ahern/CT
11/11/2004 11:35:23 AM (4002 views)
Re: Skipjack - Donna Grady/NC
11/13/2004 10:25:23 AM (3953 views)
Re: Skipjack - Lisa Ramsey/TX
11/13/2004 12:30:39 PM (3995 views)
Re: Skipjack - Scott Perry/PA
11/15/2004 9:26:48 PM (3852 views)

E&O insurance - Judy Nisonger/CA
11/10/2004 1:54:28 PM (3297 views)
Re: E&O insurance - Robert Breakell/CT
11/10/2004 7:41:02 PM (3832 views)
Re: E&O insurance - kevin ahern/CT
11/11/2004 6:04:14 AM (3851 views)
Re: E&O insurance - Robert Breakell/CT
11/11/2004 12:05:56 PM (3764 views)

Online services - Jimmy Smith/PA
11/10/2004 12:43:30 PM (2627 views)
Re: Online services - Lisa Ramsey/TX
11/10/2004 2:08:39 PM (3930 views)
Re: Online services - David Bloys/TX
11/10/2004 4:11:13 PM (3895 views)
Re: Online services - Judy Nisonger/CA
11/10/2004 4:47:35 PM (4012 views)
Re: Online services - Robert Breakell/CT
11/10/2004 7:28:19 PM (3973 views)
Re: Online services - Judy Nisonger/CA
11/10/2004 8:29:23 PM (3839 views)
Re: Online services - Lisa Ramsey/TX
11/10/2004 2:08:40 PM (3849 views)
Re: Online services - John OConnor/IL
11/11/2004 1:00:53 PM (3826 views)
Re: Online services - Lisa Ramsey/TX
11/11/2004 5:04:33 PM (3801 views)
Re: Online services - Lisa Ramsey/TX
11/11/2004 5:04:34 PM (3813 views)

I'm sorry that putting "facts" on the screen and online have upset some folks.  Facts are facts.  VM's, etc "have learned that there are relatively few claims in this industry" is a statement of the past.  What they are learning today is that they shouldn't have trusted everyone that said they were a qualified abstractor or tried to do the work themselves online.  The fact is there are a lot of claims in this industry today - to the point that an insurer asked me if I did nationwide abstracting because he will not insure them anymore.  When insurance becomes a problem no one is in business.  I agree that some counties have the same information but in all cases the route in order to retrieve the information is greatly hindered.  If I can't run a search by property I cannot complete the search in my state.  If I had to run a search from bank to bank to find an assignment it would take me 4 days in some cases.  And they are finding out it is not just access to information that allows a proper search it is the ability to know how to search in that particular county - that in itself can increase liability 10 fold.  I could not sit down in a nationwide office and do nationwide work without great liability.  Every single county indexes differently and has different abbreviations that if spelled completely out will come up as no records found - a huge liability to not find 380,000 judgments.  As I tell my clients, if I felt that my state's indexing was reliable and accurate - I would reduce my rates, sit down at my desk and do the work but I would never attempt to do the entire United States and their counties - that in itself is insane and too much pressure on an individual to remember all the little quirks of every counties system and indexing techniques. 

And as I said before if it comes to the point that we are all allowed to do in-house searches for lending institutions, etc. there will be no more Vendor Management companies as we know it.  You and I will cover the entire state for lending institutions ourselves - and when it comes down to it they will want someone who can cover a broad area and yet be very knowledgeable about the documents and legalities of a particular state.  It is kind of like sticking your foot in your own mouth.  You take from one industry - the industry takes from you.  Like I said our marketing (most of us) was limited to the nationwide vending companies and title companies - you take that away from us and we market direct and show the difference in the quality of the work but also the turnaround time.  If I was a lending institution I would rather work with 50 business - one for each state proficient in all the indexing, terms, laws, forms, etc. than one vending company trying to know it all and taking 2 weeks to get everything back.  And it comes down to this too - there will eventually come a time when an abstractor says no to all the hard to find orders, etc that are coming out or the lack of volume and if prices go up to meet the decline in volume - when all is said or done - they will find out it is just as cheap for us to do them all.  They will never be able to get the case that was filed yesterday by tommorrow or the certified copy federal X out in 24 hours - 60 year searches online - never will happen - I can see them taking those microfilms and putting them online - will not happen - Plats will not be online - won't happen - if you have deeds online but not probates and divorces - can't do a proper title search - and if retrievals have to go from $15.00 to $50.00 then I say that is what the industry will eventually do - I guess what I am trying to say is that don't look at this so narrow minded - with change comes change and I don't believe everyone thought out what their actions will cause everyone else to do.  Abstractors aren't going to keep going down or maintain their prices - eventually they will say this is too much work and liability for the money (I'd hate to be the one that charged $25.00 which cost me $196,000) which will end up with a shortage of abstractors and a sharp increase in pricing - it's called supply and demand. 

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Re: Online services - Donna Grady/NC
11/11/2004 8:44:14 PM (3793 views)
Re: Online services - Lisa Ramsey/TX
11/11/2004 9:21:03 PM (3818 views)
Re: Online services - Judy Nisonger/CA
11/12/2004 4:55:29 AM (3765 views)
Re: Online services - Donna Grady/NC
11/13/2004 10:28:21 AM (3765 views)


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online searchers put me out of buss. - JD Smith/SC
11/10/2004 12:18:49 PM (2594 views)
Re: online searchers put me out of buss. - Judy Nisonger/CA
11/10/2004 1:06:57 PM (4081 views)
Re: online searchers put me out of buss. - terezia pataki/FL
11/10/2004 2:14:13 PM (4004 views)
Re: online searchers put me out of buss. - Lisa Ramsey/TX
11/10/2004 2:41:38 PM (4035 views)
Re: online searchers put me out of buss. - Judy Nisonger/CA
11/10/2004 3:40:08 PM (3903 views)
Re: online searchers put me out of buss. - Ellen Malloy/MO
11/10/2004 3:02:54 PM (3916 views)
Re: online searchers put me out of buss. - Douglas Gallant/OH
11/10/2004 6:32:29 PM (3934 views)
Re: online searchers put me out of buss. - Robert Breakell/CT
11/10/2004 7:24:16 PM (3987 views)
Re: online searchers put me out of buss. - Ellen Malloy/MO
11/10/2004 8:40:57 PM (3853 views)
Re: online searchers put me out of buss. - Michelle Bernard/LA
11/11/2004 7:44:40 PM (3818 views)
Re: online searchers put me out of buss. - kevin ahern/CT
11/11/2004 5:56:45 AM (3779 views)
Re: online searchers put me out of buss. - Robert Breakell/CT
11/11/2004 12:05:21 PM (3703 views)
Re: online searchers put me out of buss. - kevin ahern/CT
11/11/2004 12:28:34 PM (3786 views)
Re: online searchers put me out of buss. - Kurt deVries/FL
11/12/2004 1:48:22 PM (3798 views)
Re: online searchers put me out of buss. - Judy Nisonger/CA
11/13/2004 1:08:53 AM (3821 views)
Re: online searchers put me out of buss. - Lisa Ramsey/TX
11/13/2004 12:18:51 PM (3696 views)
Re: online searchers put me out of buss. - Judy Nisonger/CA
11/13/2004 5:21:19 PM (3716 views)
Re: online searchers put me out of buss. - Jimmy Smith/PA
11/13/2004 11:46:30 AM (3800 views)
Re: online searchers put me out of buss. - Judy Nisonger/CA
11/13/2004 4:56:45 PM (3793 views)
Re: online searchers put me out of buss. - Jimmy Smith/PA
11/15/2004 5:04:38 PM (3715 views)
Re: online searchers put me out of buss. - Lisa Ramsey/TX
11/15/2004 6:00:27 PM (3744 views)
Re: online searchers put me out of buss. - Judy Nisonger/CA
11/15/2004 8:46:35 PM (3778 views)
Re: online searchers put me out of buss. - Ray Fellows/MA
11/15/2004 2:57:56 PM (3637 views)
Re: online searchers put me out of buss. - Shannon Blatt/VA
11/16/2004 1:23:12 AM (3668 views)

infoTrack - Frank Navarro - Traci/AL
11/10/2004 11:09:59 AM (2754 views)
Re: infoTrack - Frank Navarro - Becky/NC
11/10/2004 9:06:00 PM (3790 views)
Re: infoTrack - Frank Navarro - Donna Grady/NC
11/11/2004 8:29:34 PM (3780 views)
Re: infoTrack - Frank Navarro - Oliver Chisolm, Jr/MS
11/13/2004 3:16:46 PM (3859 views)
Re: infoTrack - Frank Navarro - Traci/AL
11/15/2004 11:43:14 PM (3742 views)
Re: infoTrack - Frank Navarro - Helene/GA
11/18/2004 9:12:19 PM (4012 views)
Re: infoTrack - Frank Navarro - Helene/GA
1/4/2005 10:41:06 PM (3692 views)
Re: infoTrack - Frank Navarro - Traci/AL
1/5/2005 10:08:28 PM (3698 views)

Competing With Online Searches - Compass Abstracts/FL
11/10/2004 12:25:40 AM (2558 views)
Re: Competing With Online Searches - Judy Nisonger/CA
11/10/2004 3:25:46 AM (3689 views)
Re: Competing With Online Searches - terezia pataki/FL
11/10/2004 10:25:18 AM (3730 views)
Re: Competing With Online Searches - Shannon Blatt/VA
11/10/2004 11:24:25 AM (3631 views)
Re: Competing With Online Searches - Lisa Ramsey/TX
11/10/2004 11:39:15 AM (3737 views)
Re: Competing With Online Searches - Judy Nisonger/CA
11/10/2004 1:16:20 PM (3570 views)
Re: Competing With Online Searches - Compass Abstracts/FL
11/12/2004 12:02:04 AM (3524 views)
Re: Competing With Online Searches - Kurt deVries/FL
11/12/2004 1:52:22 PM (3612 views)
Re: Competing With Online Searches - Compass Abstracts/FL
11/12/2004 11:36:49 PM (3610 views)
Re: Competing With Online Searches - Rebecca Barney/FL
11/15/2004 10:20:02 AM (3544 views)
Re: Competing With Online Searches - Douglas Gallant/OH
11/10/2004 5:43:16 PM (3560 views)
Re: Competing With Online Searches - David Bloys/TX
11/10/2004 8:02:37 PM (3567 views)
Re: Competing With Online Searches - Douglas Gallant/OH
11/11/2004 4:48:27 PM (3557 views)
Re: Competing With Online Searches - Jeanne Johnson/MN
11/11/2004 1:53:53 PM (3630 views)
Re: Competing With Online Searches - Compass Abstracts/FL
11/12/2004 12:13:11 AM (3554 views)
Re: Competing With Online Searches - Douglas Gallant/OH
11/12/2004 6:06:17 PM (3382 views)
Re: Competing With Online Searches - Compass Abstracts/FL
11/12/2004 11:29:13 PM (3485 views)
Re: Competing With Online Searches - Judy Nisonger/CA
11/13/2004 1:18:57 AM (3523 views)
Re: Competing With Online Searches - Robert Franco/OH
11/13/2004 4:44:23 PM (3615 views)
Re: Competing With Online Searches - Judy Nisonger/CA
11/13/2004 5:26:40 PM (3484 views)

Associations - Judy Nisonger/CA
11/9/2004 5:01:27 PM (2376 views)
Re: Associations - Robert Breakell/CT
11/9/2004 8:43:35 PM (3465 views)
Re: Associations - Judy Nisonger/CA
11/10/2004 2:01:35 PM (3386 views)

Surfin' - Judy Nisonger/CA
11/9/2004 4:27:31 PM (2290 views)
Re: Surfin' - Judy Nisonger/CA
11/9/2004 4:58:58 PM (4379 views)

Post NALTEA Conference Meeting - Robert Franco/OH
11/9/2004 3:17:19 PM (2286 views)
Re: Post NALTEA Conference Meeting - Jay Duncan
11/9/2004 3:35:49 PM (3395 views)
Re: Post NALTEA Conference Meeting - Shannon Blatt/VA
11/9/2004 4:50:15 PM (3424 views)
Re: Post NALTEA Conference Meeting - Robert Breakell/CT
11/9/2004 8:37:37 PM (3416 views)
Re: Post NALTEA Conference Meeting - David Bloys/TX
11/9/2004 10:03:16 PM (3350 views)
Re: Post NALTEA Conference Meeting - Compass Abstracts/FL
11/9/2004 11:06:28 PM (3417 views)

NCSTATE BAR TRYING TO SHUT DOWN INDEPENDENT PARALEGALS - Donna Grady/NC
11/9/2004 11:28:24 AM (2484 views)
Re: NCSTATE BAR TRYING TO SHUT DOWN INDEPENDENT PARALEGALS - Lisa Ramsey/TX
11/9/2004 8:02:24 PM (3436 views)
Re: NCSTATE BAR TRYING TO SHUT DOWN INDEPENDENT PARALEGALS - Donna Grady/NC
11/9/2004 10:13:05 PM (3650 views)
Re: NCSTATE BAR TRYING TO SHUT DOWN INDEPENDENT PARALEGALS - Donna Grady/NC
11/9/2004 10:17:04 PM (3401 views)
Re: NCSTATE BAR TRYING TO SHUT DOWN INDEPENDENT PARALEGALS - Robert Franco/OH
11/12/2004 3:14:09 PM (3339 views)

3000 - Shannon Blatt/VA
11/8/2004 5:20:02 PM (2310 views)
Re: 3000 - Robert Franco/OH
11/8/2004 5:35:09 PM (3457 views)
Re: 3000 - Judy Nisonger/CA
11/9/2004 2:20:07 AM (3348 views)
Re: 3000 - Robert Franco/OH
11/9/2004 10:46:03 AM (3389 views)

Zeno Data - Matthew DeLand/NY
11/8/2004 4:49:23 PM (2402 views)
Re: Zeno Data - Robert Franco/OH
11/8/2004 5:30:31 PM (5807 views)
NO MACHINE CAN DO THIS JOB... - Scott Perry/PA
11/9/2004 8:19:46 PM (3437 views)
Re: NO MACHINE CAN DO THIS JOB... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
11/9/2004 10:50:16 PM (3418 views)
Re: NO MACHINE CAN DO THIS JOB... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
11/9/2004 10:50:21 PM (3452 views)
Re: NO MACHINE CAN DO THIS JOB... - Robert Breakell/CT
11/10/2004 7:43:58 PM (3452 views)

3S Realserv - Lynn Hammett/SC
11/8/2004 2:57:49 PM (2481 views)
Re: 3S Realserv - David Bloys/TX
11/8/2004 3:15:26 PM (3498 views)
Re: 3S Realserv - jayne storm/SD
11/8/2004 3:44:12 PM (3549 views)


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