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Collection Agency for Just Abstractors - Angelica DelliCarpini/IN
7/7/2004 2:00:15 AM (1403 views)

Using a laptop to search - Annette Dorty/PA
7/6/2004 3:02:06 PM (2656 views)
Re: Using a laptop to search - Alan Voorheis
7/6/2004 3:44:08 PM (2902 views)
Re: Using a laptop to search - Annette Dorty/PA
7/6/2004 6:48:45 PM (2848 views)
Re: Using a laptop to search - Scott Perry/PA
7/6/2004 10:13:29 PM (2888 views)
Re: Using a laptop to search - Annette Dorty/PA
7/7/2004 1:49:01 PM (2806 views)

Lots of PC on the "Newbies" - Kurt deVries/FL
7/6/2004 12:53:53 PM (1279 views)

Brutal Truth gets your attention!!! - Jay Duncan
7/5/2004 2:26:09 PM (1641 views)
Re: Brutal Truth gets your attention!!! - Judy Nisonger/CA
7/5/2004 5:07:46 PM (2749 views)
Re: Brutal Truth gets your attention!!! - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/5/2004 6:54:34 PM (2754 views)
Re: Brutal Truth gets your attention!!! - Jay Duncan/MO
7/5/2004 10:28:50 PM (2793 views)

Community College Classes - James Guill/VA
7/4/2004 2:28:49 PM (1524 views)
Re: Community College Classes - Robert Franco/OH
7/4/2004 2:44:03 PM (2854 views)
Re: Community College Classes - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/4/2004 2:52:32 PM (2635 views)
Re: Community College Classes - Loretta Reed/MD
7/4/2004 5:16:33 PM (2691 views)
Re: Community College Classes - James Guill/VA
7/4/2004 5:57:19 PM (2695 views)
Re: Community College Classes - Douglas Gallant/OH
7/4/2004 6:44:37 PM (2658 views)


Real Title Services


It is the VETERAN...... - Jay Duncan/MO
7/4/2004 2:16:30 PM (1578 views)
Re: It is the GRUNT - Datalore/PA
7/4/2004 8:48:23 PM (2642 views)

Newbie bashing - Judy Nisonger/CA
7/3/2004 10:32:04 AM (1643 views)
Re: Newbie bashing - Loretta Reed/MD
7/3/2004 11:17:53 AM (2692 views)
Re: Newbie bashing - Judy Nisonger/CA
7/3/2004 11:21:19 AM (2701 views)
Re: Newbie bashing - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/3/2004 2:01:17 PM (2670 views)
Re: Newbie bashing - Judy Nisonger/CA
7/3/2004 6:36:19 PM (2638 views)
Re: Newbie bashing - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/4/2004 10:08:24 AM (2553 views)
Re: Newbie bashing - Judy Nisonger/CA
7/4/2004 11:39:15 AM (2629 views)
Re: Newbie bashing - Loretta Reed/MD
7/4/2004 1:20:04 PM (2598 views)
Kurts Training!!! - Kurt deVries/FL
7/6/2004 1:06:10 PM (2615 views)
Re: Kurts Training!!! - Loretta Reed/MD
7/6/2004 4:53:02 PM (2659 views)
Who CAME after you? - Kurt deVries/FL
7/7/2004 9:27:34 AM (2567 views)
Re: Who CAME after you? - Loretta Reed/MD
7/7/2004 9:35:04 AM (2628 views)
MD has some Crazy Laws - Kurt deVries/FL
7/7/2004 10:45:15 AM (2662 views)
Re: Who CAME after you? - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/7/2004 1:05:22 PM (2549 views)
Re: Who CAME after you? - Jay Duncan
7/7/2004 1:18:50 PM (2606 views)
Re: Kurts Training!!! - Douglas Gallant/OH
7/7/2004 5:52:19 PM (2631 views)
Re: Incorporate - Robert Franco/OH
7/7/2004 10:24:47 AM (2554 views)
Re: Incorporate - Kurt deVries/FL
7/7/2004 10:41:35 AM (2639 views)
Re: Incorporate - Loretta Reed/MD
7/7/2004 1:40:02 PM (2559 views)
Re: Incorporate - Kurt deVries/FL
7/7/2004 3:23:05 PM (2539 views)
Re: Incorporate - Amanda Packey/FL
7/7/2004 3:33:33 PM (2567 views)
Thank You Amanda!!! - Kurt deVries/FL
7/7/2004 4:02:16 PM (2505 views)
Re: Thank You Amanda!!! - Amanda Packey/FL
7/7/2004 4:08:18 PM (2597 views)
Re: Incorporate - kevin ahern/CT
7/8/2004 7:08:59 AM (2512 views)
Re: Incorporate - Robert Franco/OH
7/8/2004 2:38:24 PM (2460 views)
Re: Incorporate (PA) - Annette Dorty/PA
7/8/2004 4:08:32 PM (2497 views)
Re: Incorporate (PA) - kevin ahern/CT
7/9/2004 5:27:30 AM (2529 views)
Re: Newbie bashing - Robert Franco/OH
7/4/2004 2:21:30 PM (2476 views)

I hate to get involved in this conversation, but I think it is an important topic.  "Newbie Bashing" is not a good thing, and I don't want to blame the "newbies" for some of the problems in the industry - because they don't know the problems that are being caused by their lack of training.  I believe that there are a lot of well intentioned abstractors, very new to the field, who were led down this path by someone else.

The best advice for someone who wants to be an independent abstractor is to work for a title company or attorney for a couple of years (and that may not be enough).  The only way to become a good abstractor is to gain experience... the only way to gain expereince without causing a lot of problems and incurring a huge amount of liability is to have someone knowledgeable in the field review your work and explain "WHY" you should or shouldn't show certian items.  Good training is extremely important!!

For example... when you are searching a property that recently came out of foreclosure with liens still showing open you have to know when lis pendens applies.  Some liens may survive the suit, others may be extiguished. When you have a deed that wasn't notarized properly, what is the statutory requirement that will cure the defect?  There are so many things that you really can't be prepared for, unless you have come across them before and had someone there to properly explain them when they do arise.  That takes a lot of time - and a good teacher.

It is easy for someone to say, "just find the deed and look for any liens", but there is so much more to it than that.  As rates begin to rise and more forclosures are filed, many cliams will be generated.  It is going to be a scary time for a lot of abstractors and insurers.

I have also spoken with a few E&O insurers regarding discounts for NALTEA members and the answer was always the same... "there are a lot of new abstractors that haven't been properly trained entering the field."  This is ONE of the causes of the higer rates, but I'm sure there are other forces at work also.

Source of Title gets a lot of e-mail asking "how do I become an abstractor?" and I always tell them the same thing - get a job with a title company or attorney that has sufficent resources to train you properly.  Anyone who wants to be an abstractor, without the necessary training, can get into the field, but they should be aware of the requirements of the job and fully understand the liability associated with it.  Missing one mortgage, federal tax lien, life estate, or anything else could cost you your home!  Most of us can't afford to pay a $100,000 claim and the rising E&O rates should be an indication of the liability involved.

A final note:  the Source of Title message forums are for everyone, newbies and seasoned abstractors alike, but newbies won't always like the responses they get.  They shouldn't be taken as "hostile" or "bashing" but as a wanring that there is a lot of responsibility involved with abstracting.  Peoples homes, the single largest investment they make, are riding on your ability to perform your duties as an abstractor.  Those who have been trained for years before becoming independent are frustrated with the abstractors that don't think they need to be properly trained or aren't aware of the training that they didn't get.  Some of them simply do not realize how much they do not know.

Best to everyone,
Robert A. Franco
SOURCE OF TITLE

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Re: Newbie bashing - James Guill/VA
7/4/2004 3:56:18 PM (2478 views)
Re: Newbie bashing - Loretta Reed/MD
7/4/2004 5:11:04 PM (2448 views)
Re: Newbie bashing... Thank you! - Judy Nisonger/CA
7/5/2004 11:20:11 AM (2441 views)
Re: Newbie bashing... Thank you! - Loretta Reed/MD
7/5/2004 1:49:35 PM (2499 views)
Re: Newbie bashing... Thank you! - Judy Nisonger/CA
7/5/2004 5:26:12 PM (2462 views)
Re: Newbie bashing... Thank you! - Loretta Reed/MD
7/5/2004 5:39:52 PM (2448 views)
Re: Newbie bashing... Thank you! - Scott Perry/PA
7/5/2004 9:45:45 PM (2421 views)
Keep BUSH IN!!! - Kurt deVries/FL
7/6/2004 12:46:19 PM (2460 views)
Re: Newbie bashing... Thank you! - Robert Franco/OH
7/6/2004 1:32:32 PM (2323 views)
Rising Rates! - Kurt deVries/FL
7/6/2004 2:08:43 PM (2350 views)
Re: Rising Rates! - Douglas Gallant/OH
7/6/2004 6:01:17 PM (3426 views)
Re: Rising Rates! - Judy Nisonger/CA
7/7/2004 7:38:53 PM (2266 views)
Unemployment - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/7/2004 7:43:12 PM (2307 views)
Re: Unemployment - Judy Nisonger/CA
7/8/2004 11:14:10 AM (2280 views)
Re: Unemployment - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/8/2004 11:43:00 AM (2200 views)
Re: Unemployment - Judy Nisonger/CA
7/8/2004 11:00:17 PM (2183 views)

HOT LIST... - Loretta Reed/MD
7/2/2004 10:42:01 PM (1237 views)

Happy 4th!!! - Ellen/MO
7/2/2004 4:39:43 PM (1531 views)
Re: Happy 4th!!! - Jay Duncan/MO
7/2/2004 5:06:12 PM (2549 views)
Re: Happy 4th!!! - Loretta Reed/MD
7/2/2004 5:45:08 PM (2461 views)
Re: Happy 4th!!! - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/2/2004 6:15:03 PM (2378 views)
Re: Happy 4th!!! - Jay Duncan
7/2/2004 7:52:33 PM (2367 views)

ATC - Accelerated Title Co - Teresa Beeman/NC
7/2/2004 10:24:33 AM (1827 views)
Re: ATC - Accelerated Title Co - Barbara Bennett/IN
7/2/2004 2:56:20 PM (2576 views)

to the best contact person, happy b-day - monica froese/ME
7/1/2004 10:20:23 PM (1363 views)

Order your NALTEA Business Cards for your... - National Assoc of Land Title Examiners and Abstrac/OH
7/1/2004 7:32:09 PM (1324 views)

National Equity Services - Michelle/NJ
7/1/2004 7:26:55 PM (1872 views)
Re: National Equity Services - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/1/2004 7:49:38 PM (2806 views)

Service Link out of PA? - Douglas Johnson/MN
7/1/2004 4:48:55 PM (1843 views)
Re: Service Link out of PA? - Loretta Reed/MD
7/1/2004 5:40:03 PM (2971 views)
Re: Service Link out of PA? - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/1/2004 6:06:46 PM (2890 views)
Re: Service Link out of PA? - Robert Franco/OH
7/1/2004 6:17:57 PM (2955 views)
Re: Service Link out of PA? - Douglas Johnson/MN
7/2/2004 1:20:34 PM (2825 views)
Re: Service Link out of PA? - Ken Ungarsohn/NJ
7/16/2009 10:39:19 AM (2368 views)
Re: Service Link out of PA? - CLEOFI BLASS/NJ
7/2/2004 2:01:11 PM (2896 views)
Re: Service Link out of PA? - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/2/2004 6:17:23 PM (2868 views)
Re: Service Link out of PA? - CLEOFI BLASS/NJ
7/6/2004 12:27:33 PM (2896 views)
Too bad...their loss!! - Scott Perry/PA
7/6/2004 10:16:23 PM (2779 views)
Re: Service Link out of PA? - Patricia Palmer/PA
7/7/2004 5:35:43 PM (2936 views)

Abstractor Associations - National Assoc of Land Title Examiners and Abstrac/OH
6/30/2004 5:58:21 PM (2245 views)
Re: Abstractor Associations - Angelica DelliCarpini/IN
6/30/2004 7:56:55 PM (2781 views)
Re: Abstractor Associations - Jay Duncan/MO
6/30/2004 9:17:08 PM (2620 views)
Re: Abstractor Associations - Jay Duncan/MO
6/30/2004 9:33:33 PM (3589 views)


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